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    December 22, 2012
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fencing issue, it really has gone through the cracks. i think that this is a wonderful festival. they really are concerned with the community. but this is something that falls to a subcontractor. so, it's very hard for them to manage. and from year to year that perimeter fencing that locks up a whole section, i would say it's up to 25% of the whole park for up to three weeks, last year it was three full weeks. the perimeter fencing that goes jfk, [speaker not understood] drive and mlk drive and up to the east. it's got to be controlled and it's not in the agreement and it's not in the resolution. i have draft language, i was a former city planner, i like to draft language, i don't know why. but something that i really hope that you could add to the contract agreement, the
extension, and we want them to be there, but it is really a good period. you heard real estate tell you that usually a five-year contract, five-year renewable. i mean, they have proven themselves over five years. they have been responsive. it's eight years too long. would you please add this language? and i have copies for you and i've e-mailed them to you. which would limit the temporary fencing. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker. hi, i'm [speaker not understood], i'm the owner of loving cup. i own a small dessert shop in russian hill and i've been a vendor at outside land for the last two years. our involvement in outside lands is a great experience all around. it has given me the opportunity to really grow my business. aside from significantly increasing our revenue, having the presence of outside lands has allowed us to expose our
brand to tens of thousands of people, from people in the city as well as tourists. and many of them have become regular customers of our brick and mortar shop. so, we continue to benefit from the festival long after it's over. i also want to point out that i hire an additional 15 people who are local residents of san francisco each year to work the festival. and two of them i have taken on as permanent part-time hires. so, i think it really is a good benefit to increasing employment locally as well. it is also a really well run festival, super organized and they manage trash really well. thanks. hi, my name is chris nelson and i'm a resident of the sunset and i have been living in the sunset for the last five years. i am a wine maker by trade here in san francisco and i'm a very big fan of the wine festival.
never seen anything like that at another festival. they really bring together some great wineries and i think it's truly a cultural experience when you look at it from that side. i will note i've never poured my wine there so i'm not biased, okay. but they really have done a great job of expanding the whole festival. i've always either walked, biked or taken muni. i've never seen any problems. i realize there are -- the ng has been full of people, but they're all going to the festival and it's been a very good experience. it's been very positive. i've never had any problems in nigh five years and i really hope that you continue to expand the leasing and let this go for another eight years. thank you. hello, my name is tia [speaker not understood], from the [speaker not understood] foundation. we are in support of extending the eight year contract with outside lands. they are one of the few events that allow us to continue to do our beach clean up during the
event. [speaker not understood] cancel along the beach, we have to cancel outside lands, combine that beach clean up that takes care of the outlying neighborhoods. and we have had great exposure being in the [speaker not understood] environment as well. we have been able to reach out to people not only in san francisco and bay area, but also [speaker not understood] area and around the world which is part of the surf rider foundation's mission statement. we are an international [speaker not understood] and to go to an event likes this helps us to take care of our coastlines and work with the [speaker not understood]. thank you. thanks for taking the time to listen to us. my name is calvin schneider, [speaker not understood], located in the mission and [speaker not understood] outside lands the last four years. i've also done a large variety of other seiberttionv from
carnival to pride to [speaker not understood] * events. we work next to companies that bring other employees from modesto, other employees and food from fresno. so, the fact that this event hires locally 58 out of 60 local restaurants i think speaks miles for what it does for the city. one other minor point. [speaker not understood] had one of my cooks become ill on friday night. he was taken almost immediately by golf cart to a medical tent, local volunteers that work all the hospitals around the city took care of him. and i don't think -- i never would have expected that level of service. and again, entirely volunteer run, put together by and coordinated by outside lands. i think, again, speaks miles toward the caliber of this event. thank you. hi, my name is sasha detrick and i'm from the outer
district, 26th and balboa. i moved to san francisco about 15 years ago as an adult. i chose to live here for the culture. i can say it's definitely at the top of my list. i was thrilled when outside lands came to our neighborhood. but as a mother i think i have a special perspective that hasn't really been seen here. [speaker not understood] where the neighborhoods are respected. caring for our parks and our lands, our open space, where people treat one another with kindness and respect. and i've seen nothing but that. i've attended all but one of the outside lands festivals and i can't think of one negative experience that i've had. it's really been a joyous wonderful occasion. the outer richmond residents feel like we are part of this [speaker not understood] world class city which we live in which we often feel neglected out there, i'll be honest. and it's also in the depths, in the dreary darkness of august,
let's be honest, when many of us are fleeing towards the sun. there is a reason to stay. it is a reason to enjoy our beautiful park and to see some great music and enjoy some local food and experience it together [speaker not understood]. thank you. >> thank you for that unique perspective. i'll call a few more names. ari [speaker not understood], [speaker not understood], christopher clark, nicky bloom, and james [speaker not understood]. good afternoon, my name is don. i work for the equipment rentals. we work with another planet. we're in full support of. this all i can say is wow. i think the numbers are phenomenal to keep things going on here in san francisco, keeping the culture and the history. thank you. good afternoon, my name is andrew johnson. i own the little chihuahua
restaurant here in san francisco. it's been an all around excellent experience, not only for myself, for my employees, for my business. one thing that's great about the event is how much they have respect for the environment and recycling and the area that's around. we're also in contact with other local vendors, businesses and in turn i'm now using other vendors that i've met through the event to purchase merchandise for my restaurant, et cetera. not only am i getting business, i'm now extending more business into the community also from the money that is coming and the people we're meeting. all around just a great event and full support. thank you. good afternoon, my name is chris clark. i'm a resident of the sunset. lived there for 10 years at 10th and irving. a wife and two daughters live
there and this has become an event we absolutely love. it's [speaker not understood] on our calendar each august. and we're just proud to have the world's premiere cultural event in the backyard. in some years we've taken our kids to the event. it's been a wonderful place to take them. in other years we drop them off so we can enjoy it as adults. and we've really enjoyed accessing the event by riding bikes every year, we use the bikes in the past few years we've used the extra bike racks that have been provided. i want to say that we're really comforted knowing another planet is in charge and control of organizing this event. they've been wonderful stewards of our neighborhood and i think they set a standard for organization by which we measure all other events that happen in our neighborhood. since moving into the sunset there's been a lot of action to
museums have been renovated and reopened. * two lots of other concerts, sporting events, and upon reflection we think that each organization is admirable and the standard by which all should be measured. from communication and transportation, getting people out thereby transportation or bikes, the free smut shuttle they just added last year, the number of bike racks they added as well * to the vibrant activity in the local businesses, some of the local restaurants in our neighborhood, certainly staying open later for festival goers there late at night. finally, i'm blown away to know an event that brings so much joy to the city also has such an impressive fiscal impact, bet directly to the park as well as indirectly. and we've seen marked improvements in the parks every year since outside lands has
been in golden gate park and many thanks to both rec and park and another planet for all the hard work they're putting into that. we really hope that you extend this for another eight years so we can continue to see those improvements. thanks. >> thank you. good afternoon, my name is julio thomas and i'm a long-time resident of the inner richmond at 710 fifth avenue. i'm land use and real estate attorney by training and have been involved in issues like the de young museum and parking garage, that involved access and mitigation measured. and i've just been real impressed a someone who has gone to the festival for the last five years and seen the issues that another side has had to deal with, how effectively it's communicated with the residents and how enjoyable the festival really is. i've definitely witnessed
impacts, tremendous positive impacts on the local businesses in my neighborhood. i also think personally as a property owner in the inner richmond, it really put the richmond and sunset neighborhoods on the map. not only within san francisco, but really nationally. and i think that has an obvious impact beyond the immediate fiscal effects on property values and business values. i'm very supportive and happy to endorse an extension to this contract. thank you. >> thank you. good afternoon, my name is ari feingold, and i'm a curator for [speaker not understood], so i'm responsible for bringing local restaurants in the park and helping them transfer their operation into a fending operation in the park. i've been doing it for three years as a curator but was involved as a vendor before that. so, i've been with the festival since it started. i do consider it a real privilege to work with such a
diverse group of local restaurants and to really sort of celebrate the incredible culinary culture in our city. a conversation started a few speakers ago about the local factor of the festival. i just want to say typically my strategy for acquiring new vendors is to start in the neighborhood around the park and work my way out. so, alan had mentioned, you know, pacific [speaker not understood], new ganges, [speaker not understood], there's definitely some other ones, but this year we had the pizza place, noriega, which is more in the neighborhood of 25th that we're talking about before. one of the things i do every year is invite people for the following year to try to bring some new folks out there and three of the people that i invited this year are in that exact part of the sunset. so, trouble coffee company, outer lands and java beach. so, you have my commitment that i'll be more aggressive about bringing those kind of
businesses in. they don't always say yes, but we always start with them and sort of work our way out. i've gotten incredible feedback from both fans of the event. they get to try food they normally wouldn't try, number one, just because of the diversity of the menu offerings, but also because you have these high-end restaurants offering a plate of food for $10, which is not typical of these higher end restaurants. and from the businesses, just incredible feedback on the impact on their businesses, on their community, and most importantly on their employees and something the employees think about for the whole year, the restaurant, have a little bit of fun with it as well. i've been watch thing thing grow. i'm really proud to be a part of it. i appreciate the opportunity. you know, i hope three more years will bring the restaurant to golden gate park. thank you very much for your time. good afternoon, my name is nicky bloom. i am a homeowner in the outer
sunset district and also san francisco musician. i've gone to almost all of the outside lands festivals and my husband, who is also a musician, played at the very first festival in 2008, and my band played the fourth festival. i believe it was 2011. it's a really wonderful event for any band to play, and it really raises the caliber. so, for us as san francisco musicians it's been a really wonderful boost for our career. we also have the benefit of, as i said, living in the outer sunset, riding our bikes to the event, which is a very rare occurrence as a touring musician. so, it's a very special day for all of us, not to mention our [speaker not understood] family coming out to the event to support us. even years we don't play we try to attend just because it's such a well-run, wonderfully
community-based event that continues the history of music in san francisco. we have a fabulous long history of music in this city and another planet does such a fabulous job of continuing their efforts to have a home for music in 2012 and beyond. of course, it helps small businesses around the area and provides a place for us to have music, food, drink, celebration and community, which is the joys of life. thank you. >> thank you. my name is james nimorovski. thank you for the time for the input. it's hard to follow-up the remarks, the fantastic comments people have already made. i would say as a long-time resident of the richmond district, the impact of the event seems quite nominal in terms of the people passing
through the neighborhood to get to and from the event. also attending the event is very convenient. i live very close to the main entrance, but i notice that there is very little impact on the community from those coming to and from. and also much of the transport seems to be along the length of the park. and as a resident, i don't see much impact whatsoever in our residents and those around us. and i have never heard a complaint from any neighborhood nearby. also, as nicky bloom just commented, the opportunity for the local musician to thrive through another planet just seems extraordinary. and at the same time, the opportunity for world class musicians, both those in the hall of fame of music and those that are at the height of their career to be able to play with the local musicians. there is an extraordinary opportunity for us which i think is probably quite unique anywhere in the world. and i know the commitment of another planet to up and coming
musicians is extraordinary. and i truly appreciate that. thank you again. >> thank you. are there other members of the public who wish to speak on this item number 16? seeing none, public comment is closed. supervisor mar? do you want to -- do you have any closing comments? >> yeah, i just wanted to thank greg burloff and alan scott and all the other people who testified. i want to thank nick kenzi working with residents from the richmond district and others around the park to take seriously different concerns, but also to dub it into a much better agreement with another planet entertainment. i also wanted to acknowledge the economic analysis, again, of looking at the benefits to the recreation and parks department, compared to often city limits and the other festivals on the list where it's a very good agreement for the city, in my opinion. so, it's comparing it to
bonaru, la la palooza, and often city limits. we're getting a lot more benefits, community benefits, hiring of people, revitalizing the economy, invigorating the cultural and artist communities as well and the smaller restaurant and food, wine and beer businesses not just in san francisco, but in the region. so, i just feel like this is a tremendous agreement and i'm very pleased at the building in of the hiring fair and the community benefits fund and so many other things that they've -- another planet entertainment and recreation and parks department have negotiated. in addition to helping the polo fields and bleachers, endowing the gardner and so many other benefits to our neighborhoods and community, so, i urge support for this, colleagues. on the amendments and the resolution as amended as well. >> thank you, supervisor mar. just one final question to nick, the public commenter in the past talked about having three weeks of the park closed
off in this last year. is that something that happened, is it an anomaly? >> that is not or similar comments made at a commission hearing. we researched it. we did not find that to be consistent with our records. our records were that the fencing began going up the wednesday, essentially nine days before the festival, and that it was down the friday after the festival. so, a little bit over two weeks. but again, that is phased. that's starting the polo fields and some of the surrounding areas and expanding out. access was only limited to the meadows. actually being limited to the polo field on the friday before the event and is reopened the wednesday after the event in speedway meadows. access was available to
speedway meadows through the sunday before the event, the monday for the event that was closed and reopened about tuesday evening or wednesday morning after the event. so, there may be fencing up for that period of just over two weeks. but it doesn't mean it's not access to the festival site. there are holes in the fence. there are access to pathways and there are also a number of areas that are left entirely unfenced until the very last moment possible. >> and those recreation parks, does your staff actually have a hand at making sure that the fencing goes up adequately, that it goes up and is taken down at the right time? >> absolutely. >> and that there are gaps, we have direction signs, finding signs to the entrances? >> we do have directional signs where people can get into the permitting into the premises. that is something with this conversation we're going to look to expand upon for next year and continuing years. but we have operational staff on-site throughout the duration
of the build event and tear down. staff has worked closely with another planet throughout the course of the years to develop the plans for the festival. they are aware of when and where the fencing should begin and where our essentially eyes are out there making sure the contract is being followed, and you know, we would look to continue that for the life of this contract. and also i think with this conversation. we'll look to see if there are ways we can ensure that the public is better aware of when and where the fencing has gone up. >> one final thing i think should have been asked earlier. sentimentally, this is not a contract that went out for competitive bid. if you can just address that, the reason for that. >> yeah, this is a contract extension. it was put out to bid prior to the 2009 contract. the department feels strongly for a number of reasons.
it's in the city's best interest to not put this contract out to bid for the moment. first and foremost, this is a large operation that occurs in a very sensitive park setting and neighborhood setting. we have learned a number of lessons over the last four or five years of how to operate an event of this scale. and that's in a park setting without interacting or unduly interfering like for neighborhood residents. we feel strongly that another planet has also with the department [speaker not understood] and were we to put this out to bid and have a new promoter come in and operate the festival, that there would be a significant learning curve that we frankly experience ourselves in mitigating those impacts. secondly, and i think also in
importance, these festivals take time to build. the city does not own the outside lands or any outside lands is owned by another planet entertainment. the festival has not sold out until the last two years. and that's sort of the industry standard, that it takes 3 to 5 years for these festivals to begin selling out. to begin building awareness, to get the national recognition. and the city feels that if we put this out to bid and another respondent were to operate the festival, that despite whatever projections they may have, it would not be realistic to expect the festival would begin selling out and attracting the number of ticketed patrons that we experience now and we'd see a decrease in revenue to the city. so, for those reasons we have put a permanent extension to the board of supervisors for your approval. there is the appropriate
language i believe within the resolution waiving the required administrative code provisions me to take this action. but we feel strongly that at this time a contract extension is in the best interest of the city rather than beginning a competitive solicitation process. >> okay, thank you for that. i do want to thank nick kenzi for the memo that laid out all the financial pieces, especially because we did not have the benefit of a budget analyst report to layout those item. i want to thank you for that. i also want to thank supervisor mar for some of the amendments you're proposing. i think those are great amendments to it in terms of the community benefit fund. look forward to engaging with another planet and the organization to the community around the neighborhood to make sure those are spent in a way that best serves the community surrounding the -- another planet event. i think the hiring festival, i think that probably more can be done and i would be interested
to see what the statistics are about who are actually hired. that is something i think would be interesting for us to track and continue to monitor as we move forward. i would like the transportation plan that is something we continue to hear complaints about, but i would have to say that another planet has done a better job year after year with dealing with some of the traffic concerns. we have heard that from folks. i do want to mention that. and then finally in terms of the merchants associations, i do want to thank ari feingold [speaker not understood] and another planet event for reaching out to make sure that as you are looking at vendors and trying to relay the best san francisco has to offer, that is inclusive of the surrounding neighborhood as well, that is something i'm looking forward to seeing. and two other issues i do want to pull out for the department. the fence issue continues to be a large issue. so, i don't think that's solved by any means and i do hope the department continues to be very diligent and making sure that we do provide adequate signage to make sure people know where
the entrances are so we minimize that impact to residents especially if it's closed for two weeks during the year. and that is something i know the rec/park department is committed to do, but i do want to put that out there. and then finally on the noise issue, i don't think that we're fully solved on it. i do see progression of improvement on the sound issue. i think that area where people are most concerned has been sunday, the sunday evening noise, especially because there is work or school stuff that may be happening the next day. i think the calendar has moved a bit to address for that. so, i'm thankful for that. i just want to point out those are two areas of comments and criticism that we continue to hear from residents. some of those things will not be completely 100% solved, but i want to thank you for working toward improvements therethv so, we have amendments before us. supervisor mar has submitted an amendment of the whole that would amend lines 5 through 14 on page 6 that really spell out those three additional areas for the job fair, for the
transportation analysis, and also for the annual improvements to surrounding neighborhoods. just one typo on line 8. it says right now requiring another planet to fund transportation in 2013. that probably should read requiring another planet to fund analysis in 2013. if we can make that equipment amendment to it and accept those amendments from supervisor mar, we'll do that without objection. okay. and then to the underlying item as amended, do we have a motion? >> move forward with recommendation. >> we've got a motion to send the item forward with recommendation as amended and we can do that without objection. thank you. >> thank you. >> okay. item 17, please. >> item number 17, hearing to consider the annual review and approval of the board of supervisors/clerk of the board annual budget guidelines. >> thank you very much. we have the clerk for this item. >> yes, good afternoon. madam chair, members of the budget and finance committee. this is your final meeting of the year and i just wanted to
congratulate you on all of your work which is still yielding a measurable goodness in the city and to our department. honorable mention to you, madam chair, for all of your efforts in the department and you are a model chair to us as i understand you are cleaning out your pending list. so, thank you for that help. with no further delay, i am angela, the clerk of the board. i'm here with deborah, our administrative deputy to quickly hopefully get some guidance from you, which will be our 2013-14, 14-15 budget. once created the draft budget will be presented in january for your consideration and approval before being submitted in late february to the mayor and the controller. consistent with the approved two-year rolling budget plan we provide this had past june, we intend to present a draft budget recognizing the city's financial constraints. ms. ld